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welcome back to the weekend, everyone. let's get the latest on that breaking news out of the middle east, for the united states struck iranian forces and iran- backed militia groups overnight in both iraq and syria. this is the opening salvo of retaliation for the drone strike that killed three u.s. troops in jordan last weekend. this morning, the iraqi government is saying the united states air strikes put security in iraq and the region in danger, and the syrian government claims the united states is inflaming conflict in the region and i quote, very dangerous way. we want to bring in nbc news chief international correspondent keir simmons in northern iraq because who else can help explain to us what is really happening and the impact in the region? thank you for being with us. >> here in, help us understand. you had kirby saying iraq was warned to have a statement out from the iraqis, saying they
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were not. what more do you know? >> yeah, look, it's very complicated to say the least here in iraq. and it's become that way in the past few decades since the invasion of iraq, frankly, with the growing strength of iran's influence here. let's just get to that. let's tell, you first, of all in terms of news, we're hearing from iraqi media reports, citing officials not confirmed by nbc news that 16 people were killed. 36 injured here in the rock. according to the reports, including civilians. the syrian observatory for human rights across the border in syria saying 26 sites were targeted, 23 iranian-backed militia were killed. these strikes began midnight here in the region. 125 precision munitions, according to the u.s., usb one bombers flying from the continental united states. as i mentioned, the attacks,
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this operation appears to have focused on this border between iraq and syria, running along to jordan. where, of course, that's where those three u.s. servicemen and women were killed in that strike last weekend. so this is an escalation by the u.s.. the question about it, the facility started, mission started, it is also living through a specific area, specific region, if you like. you would argue, frankly, given the size and scale of the operation, a limited number of casualties. and i think that's the way the biden administration wanted it. to try to send a message to tehran. don't kill americans. but it's at the same time, hoping that this escalation is not escalatory, if you like. now, as you mentioned, iraq issuing this morning the iraqi government a blistering statement, accusing the u.s. of deception for suggesting it was war, and saying that iraq is on the edge of an abyss now.
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that statement, you've got to remember the iraqi government support a partner of the u.s. and the partner of iran. iran is very influential here, and even more influential in syria. , so, that statement will be calibrated to try to talk to places at once, and that's worth remembering. but it may be more rhetorical than reality. the question is whether the voices here in iraq now that call for the u.s. forces to be pushed out of iraq, whether they will gain traction. i think, for many americans, looking what happened overnight, it will be like a light bulb being switched on further now about the extent of iranian influence in this region. i'll just give you some examples of the. after this operation overnight, you heard from some come about more contact with the houthis in yemen trying to stop those iranian-backed attacks on commercial shipping in the red sea. even hours after this operation, we heard from, in syria, reports of israeli strikes south of damascus on iranian
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revolutionary guard operatives there. so, it just gives you a picture of how widespread the iran influence is in this region, and that is a problem, and the question that the u.s. really hasn't addressed with this operation overnight. and more stages, but i suspect that this is sailor-limited operation, despite its size. >> nbc's keir simmons for us and iraq. thank you. let's bring in as i could if the rector of the mccain institute, evelyn farkas. she is the former senior adviser to the supreme allied commander for europe. and the former deputy assistant secretary defense for russia ukraine and eurasia. >> i want to pick on gears reference to the iraqi administration protest, which is blistering and in strong diplomatic terms. but they said here. but the interesting part for it was the fact that the -- was summoned, and we don't have, right now, and ambassador in place to be that u.s. physical
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presence, if you will, because the showers affairs does not have the kind of authority to speak for the president the way an ambassador does. how does that dynamic hinder, or at least does not harm, the conversations with iraqi leaders relative to what the u.s. wants them to know beyond oh, this is the military action we're taking? >> first, keir, because the language is so important, the subtleties of understanding the language, as keir said, the iraqi government is speaking to their domestic audience and their power players, internally, and they're trying to make sure that their sovereignty is being, you know, reflected, that they're not looking weak to their internal domestic audience. at the same time, they still rely on the united states. they don't want to leave today or tomorrow, right? certainly not unless it's been the ghost yated, and a negotiation like that, and the ongoing conversation that might lead to whatever the future is
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between the united states and the rock, used to be, you know, really done really sensitively by someone who has the ear of the president so you really do want an ambassador there,, so that's a call to the senate to confirm the person who's been nominated for the position. in the interim, the charger is the person in country we. now secretary blinken is now traveling to the region, in terms of he's gonna go to the middle east, saudi arabia, egypt, qatar, israel, he's gonna go to the west bank, he is not going to iraq, okay? so, what kind of conversations are currently happening within not just the state department, but between state department officials, d.o.d., as, again they try to contain this conflict from escalating even further? >> well, symone, you put the pinpoint where we should really be paying attention, which is the diplomacy. what is secretary blinken doing? he's trying really hard, frankly, to bring an end to the current face of the conflict between israel and the hamas
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terrorists. so, as fast as he can do that, that will move us to annex phase where we are taking, hopefully, let's attack from the houthis and the other proxies, because they said they are doing this because of the war in gaza. the israelis, frankly, are conducting an operation now that is using too much force, and we have been, i guess, behind the scenes, it sounds like, trying to urge them to bring this to a close. so, it's now up to the qataris, the egyptians, the united states, to exercise influence and all the power that we have on israel and on the gaza, the hamas terrorists, to bring this to some kind of conclusion that leads us to the stew two-state solution in the future. >> it's all clearly weighing on president biden. the roads reported from before the strike that when he was meeting privately with his national security aides, he questioned if he ordered military action to avenge the deaths of three u.s. soldiers in jordan, would that jeopardize the delicate talks over the release of american
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hostages in gaza? of, course his aides assured him it would not, and yet, it does complicate those talks. >> it totally complicates those talks, the good news is, i think, alicia, that the iranian government does not want war with the united states. so, i don't think they're going to respond by escalating the situation, they attacking us again, or at least, condoning or directing an attack by their proxies. so, that's good. however, having said, that the iranians don't want necessarily peace in gaza. they don't want you now, a ditente, if you will, or good relations between israel and the gulf states, which is what we were headed towards when this operation by the gaza terrorists occurred. , so they are a spoiler, but i think if we can keep things you know, under control in terms of maintaining our deterrence and stopping the iranians from attacking us, we can get to peace. it's really important to move fast, because there's other parts of the world that are watching, you know, and -- >> iran and china. russia. >> i want to throw on the table
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secretary lloyd austin's statement, and a very important part of, it i think, for domestic consumption here in the united states, where he says we did not seek conflict in the middle east or anywhere else, but the president and i will not tolerate attacks on american forces. that something that resonates with americans across the country. irrespective of the political nonsense that we sometimes hear from the hard right individuals. from your experience and, all of your experience, because we've all kind of touched on this, how does this re- fashioning of this crisis for the american public rise to a level, like about escalation in the middle east, escalating in the political context here in the united states, so that americans do not peel off of this engagement that the u.s. finds itself in right now? >> to add to that, how does prime minister netanyahu play into all of this? someone who has been very clear he is not for a two state solution right now. >> that's right, to answer the first question, i think it does focus the american mind like
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whoa, you, no americans were just killed, these young people, you know, the flower in their youth, they're beautiful people and to learn about them is to really feel sad for the loss of the families. and it touches every american, and many people have service members in their families you know, serving overseas so, it's a wake up call to americans that when we are out in the world, we are still the dominant power in the bad guys will attack us, and it could cause a loss of life. so hopefully, what it means will pay more attention and supporter governments in establishing deterrence to make sure we aren't attacked, you understand it's important to have a strong defense and strong foreign policy. i think the secretary of defense speaks, you know, he doesn't speak a lot, but when he speaks, he does in the really decisive, no nonsense fashion, which i think helps the precedence. getting to netanyahu. i think the demonstration of power that we exercise last night is also demonstration of power of netanyahu. don't mess around with us. you're not listening to us, we want to bring this to an end,
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and you are not acting as a good face actor, i would argue, and i think for the administration, he's a frustrating character, because he's got his own agenda politically and personally. >> to say the least. farkas, i mean, thank you thank you, first of all, for getting up early, coming in, and just unpacking the things, because this is critical and so important. appreciate your time. up next, folks, we are going to continue the conversation with nbc's resident guru, andrea mitchell, at the table, and msnbc military analyst, general steph twitty. we will discuss the military strategy at play, the strikes, and everything that is happening in the region. you are watching the weekend on msnbc. e watching the weekend o msnbc. as the world keeps moving, help prevent covid-19 from breaking your momentum. you may have already been vaccinated against the flu, but don't forget this season's updated covid-19 shot too.
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late last night, after the u.s. air strikes in iraq and syria, u.s. central commander general michael corolla tweeted quote, we will continue to take action. do whatever is necessary to protect our people, and told those responsible will threaten our safety. joining us now, msnbc anchor and nbc news chief foreign affairs correspondent, andrea mitchell. and msnbc military analyst, lieutenant general steph twitty. andrea. we're gonna come to you first. here you are up early this morning, leading the breaking news special coverage on this, lots of players in the region. you interviewed just earlier this week, prior to all of this unfolding, you are speaking to
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the qataris, you've been talking to your sources. what new information are you learning this morning, as folks are waking up with the reality of the strikes being carried out in the response that you've seen from the iraqi government? >> look, symone and alicia and michael, it's great. it's my first hit on the weekend, i'm so happy to be here watching it well, it's just been terrific. look, what they're doing,, still is with daylight, as they said, last night, they are assessing the damage. they are deciding how next to respond, what will be the next wave, that will be multi tiered, that's what we heard from general austin even the day before the strikes. they faced on the criticism from the speaker and republicans about why did he wait so long? and our talk about the fact that they had specifically, specifically the weather, the cloud cover, they could've performed these strikes through the clouds, but they wanted to actually have eyes on to their surveillance in that's partly
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what they're looking at now. to assess in parts, the bomb damage assessment there surveillance. but what they're seeing today, talking to a senior official, is that they did give iraq prior warning. now, once it a whole lot of prior warning? no. because the iraqi relationship with all of the iranian-backed militias in iraq, that they say that it's not true when the iraqis are saying in baghdad and called in the ecm, the top diplomat from our big embassy there, to protest against this invasion of their sovereign you know, territory, as i would put it. but that's just not accurate, the iraqis said the u.s. lied when they on the record last night and, you know, john kirby at the white house, said on that call with all of us, that iraq did have prior warnings, that this attack was gonna come. no prior, warning of course, to damascus, the syrians. but there are three main locations in iraq war in syria,
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and they said they had some heads up. not a whole lot, but some heads up. it's clear that more is gonna come. this is only the first phase, they made that very clear , and that this is a pushback. it was all targeting the rather, the iranian revolutionary guard, which is the military arm of iran. nothing territorially on iran, and that was again, some criticism, as you saw from republicans, that they should've got to the heart of iran, but they went to that puts forth. as a very strong signal. that's the military arm that's behind all of these militias, you know, around the region that are causing some trouble. and i think that's going to continue. they made it very clear that this was targeting those responsible for tower 22, for the death of three americans. they did not act this strongly with all of the houthi attacks, some 160 attacks in all. and invading the hooting
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attacks against shipping, and austin against our service members. but once three americans were killed, the president the united states was going to respond and respond forcefully, and they believe that this was proportional, and that is going to continue. it's not over. >> steph, picking up on andrea's point about where this lands us, the washington post in reporting the conflict with iran notes the biden administration has been clear about not wanting to open a direct conflict with iran. it's significant military power that has shown itself willing through its proxies to target a wide array of american sites over the decades. that's it's a hard reality for the u.s., as it's considering its options and what to do next. secretary blinken heading to the middle east tomorrow to meet with qatar and saudi arabia and israel. how do you see the u.s. new secretary of state landing on the ground there, shaping this narrative going forward, and what we be expecting from
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the secretary's visit over the next few days? >> yeah, i think we have to continue with this balancing act. it's not just that iran does not want a war with the united states, we do not want a war with iran, however, you must respond whenever there's u.s. forces or u.s. interests that have been wounded or died, as they are conducting national security operations for our country. and so, the balancing act will be how do we continue to conduct these operations, to ensure that we safeguard u.s. interests, and to continue to allow second terry blinken to do the necessary things, such as continue to move forward and release the hostages, try to get israel to ratchet down, and
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also, the bigger and the larger piecing issue, how to get to a place so we could start talking about a two state solution, because at the end of the day, the two state solution is also what's fueling this instability in the region. >> you see new york times op-ed from tom freeman, making the argument for a biden doctrine on the middle east, which she describes as a convergence of strategic thinking and planning that would include a strong and resolute stand on iran, a u.s. diplomatic initiative to promote a palestinian state, and a vastly expanded u.s. security alliance with saudi arabia, he high park to clear, indeed. i wonder, as you talk to administration officials, if this is how they are thinking about it. >> absolutely, and before october 7th, this was what they were hoping would be on track. at the united nations, on all of this started to really jill, interviewed all the parties, and they were all interested. it's variables interest. it saudis are interested. the u.s. was interested.
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they thought it could come together. the plan from the white house perspective was to try to get into the hill, because the saudi piece was going to require senate ratification. it was going to require nuclear power, civilian nuclear power for saudi arabia, something there still a lot of opposition to on the hill, but it would be a senate vote. it's a treaty. and will be a security agreement between israel and saudi arabia and america. so, the u.s. to be providing security, as with saudi arabia, and israel will get out of, it and this was coming to be netanyahu's legacy, he thought. normalization with the saudis. the saudis wanted it, oh bin salman, on it, it and boyd israel wanted. the economic benefits, mbs, mohammed bin salman, one of the economic, the, antidepressant occasion of the royal economy from israel, the two way trade, and enormous benefits. tourism, and the same for israel, and israel would get
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peace with all of the arab countries, because the saudis are the keeper of mecca and the holy sites,. once they normalize with israel, all the others would fall in place. so, this was the capstone of, frankly what the trump administration started with the abraham accords. this is the last remaining major piece. then, at number seventh happens. not only blew up you know, and killed all those people, you know, tragically, horrific louis, the brutality of it was just devastating. it was their 9/11 in israel, and it's still wrought with the israeli public. it also telegraphed to the world that a deterrence, the senate and the idf and shan mann, was a hollow, that they could haul it without by all the turmoil, the political turmoil, in israel. that netanyahu, frankly brought upon himself with trying to grab power from the judiciary. there were daily protests that we recovering episodically,
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fort lee, but this is a big deal every day. hundreds of thousands of people pouring out into the streets, including signing signed, letters from assad and reservists that they would refuse to serve. and former leaders. so, it crossed all aspects of israeli society, except for the ultra religious on the hard right, who are in the coalition with netanyahu. that certainly helped contribute, according to all u.s. analysis and international analysis. the weekend is really deterrence, resolve, they didn't have, they were listening to their own warnings. from frankly, i knew right away, from women in the intelligence community, in the shin bet and idf reporting up, there is a keep woman analyst and you know, they sent july six, she laid out the whole plan. she said, this is real, they're exercising, july six. an october 5th, she warned again . >> and brushed off. both times! [inaudible]
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we went back to the war cabinet. they say didn't get as far as netanyahu, but never got outside that first warning didn't get outside. they say, small group of the southern defense force unit. so, all of that blew this up, and what blankenship to do when i was traveling with him on a previous shuttle, the fourth shuttle, was resurrect that they go into the arab country spurts, getting them to all sign on to this plan, that trump -- has not laid out. and we reported at the time, presented to israel, got a lot of pushback from netanyahu, but he individually with all members of the board cabinet to try to see if there were any fissures there, and there are. and the pressure from the hostages to withdraw the troops and get the fighting over from the families, i should, say from the israeli public is increasing on netanyahu, and he's got two competing forces. people want revenge and the elimination of hamas in gaza. they want to be at security. they want to get the hostages out. the israeli generals are now warning, many of them, you can't do both.
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choose one of the other, but if you keep up this fighting, the devastation, has been out of proportion, according to many in the world and really, according to the u.s. now. biden said it, that if they keep that, up the hostages will be killed. so, if you want to get the hostages out, we've got to start withdrawing your forces and looking for a peace deal that's going to be a tough compromise on all sides. >> the complexity of what this administration is feeling. and he sees a korean missile, thank you so much. it's an honor. lieutenant general steph 20, as always, thank you, sir. up next, we are live in south carolina, as the first official democratic primary. it is already underway. you are watching the weekend. . you are watching the weekend. it's time. yes, the time has come for a fresh approach to dog food. everyday more dog people are deciding it's time to quit the kibble
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win just a couple hours, goalkicking off the first official primary of the 2024 election season. president biden, he is expected to cruise passed his two opponents, congressman dean phillips of minnesota and author, marienville liam says. we have got reporters live in south carolina, msnbc's jermaine lee is in north charleston. nbc's gabe -- is in columbia. >> y'all in god's country, as i like to say. my husband is from south carolina. and my father in law is a councilman in north charleston,, so gabe, talk to me a little bit about the biden campaign and frankly, the white house on how they're viewing this? folks on the ground here in south carolina that said that they are bullish on their prospects. they feel as though this is going to be similar turnout as to the last primary in south carolina, and they caution that maybe a national narrative is not necessarily is what we're seeing on the ground.
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or seeing an injury, for what side you >> either. good morning. it's not a question of the turnout of this primary will be the same as four years ago, certainly much more competitive this time around. but turnout here, and it is, here would be early passed president biden, as he heads into the general election specifically among one core constituency. a key part of his coalition back in 2020, young black voters. and perhaps, both adding to that, vice president kamala harris visited south carolina yesterday for the ninth time since taking office. she spoke at an hbcu south carolina state university. now, i will point out, symone, that according to nbc news polling, around the country, black voters support president biden 73% to trump's set, 17%. but when you look at voters under age 34, black voters under age 34, president biden's support drops to 60%, and
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former president trump's jumps to 28%. , now, we spoke with some of those students at south carolina state university about whether they were excited about president biden's campaign. take a listen to what one of them told me. >> it's very difficult to get excited because a lot of people , i'm taking the lesser of two evils. and i society that mindset for a long time, but to be excited, i haven't been excited about politics in the 14, 15 years i've been a conscious individual. i think a lot of times, it's picking the best individual you can do a best job to support you and your interest in your community. >> taking that into account, congressman jim clyburn, of course, who's endorsed him back in 2020, it was key to president biden's victory, really catapulted him to victory here. then, eventually, the nomination. congressman clyburn has been going around trying to get these younger voters excited, and as you heard, even though that student told us he didn't
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play -- did point for president biden, didn't seem all that excited about it. some other university goers we spoke to had concerns about the biden administration's handling of the israel-hamas war as well. still, one young woman we talked accredited the biden administration considerably for getting her mother's student loans forgiven, so, certainly, that is one of the issues that young black voters here in south carolina are paying attention to, symone. >> jermaine, i want to get a little granular here. you are part of an incredible project that's going to be airing tomorrow here on our network, black men in america, the road to 2024. and i have the privilege and honor to be a part of that conversation. so, you know, i thank you for that. but i want to focus on what the washington post is reporting. the frustration that black men have with the biden administration. they note in some, a small subset of black man, there is more of a willingness to entertain republican overtures,
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and that is distinctly gender. black women are less likely to entertain it. i make the joke that when those black men who are entertaining such thoughts, they go home to their ladies, they are reminded of what they need to do on election day. but what is the genesis behind this? what's happening with black men that they are seemingly breaking off from the democratic party, instead of hovering in a different space politically? >> michael, i'll tell you what, man. it's pretty amazing when you think about four years ago, when the og james clyburn did kind of, denzel and in malcolm x, pointed the finger, and the wave of black voters flex their muscle. but, then we drill down to black men in particular beyond the loyalty and -- black voters have huge voting for democratic party, and there's a deep disconnect. certainly, there's been polling to suggest as much, and there is been anecdotal evidence to suggest as much. when i talk to brothers all
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around the country, here in south carolina, there is a detachment. one thing that comes up time and again is that when they hear the democrats and they hear joe biden say, make promises, and they don't keep those promises or there's the narrative, you know, that they don't keep the promises, they look to the other side and see a man as crazy as they think he is, in this crazy as the words that come out of his mouth, they say, at least he stands on that and they respect that. but i think that also is the struggle between narratives,. when you think about the dwindling support that black men are showing for the democrats over the last couple cycles, you know, for decades, 12 to 15% or so of black men, black male voters, voted for republicans. now, there's the obama phenomenon, when even black republican said they wanted to vote for the first black man with a viable chance to be president, and they did just that. so, now there's a resetting of, but again, but not just of the satisfaction with the democratic party, got a feeling that something has to change and that regardless of who they vote for, you, know the status of their families and their communities remain somewhat
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stagnant. , so, it's a pretty interesting jump from once we've come from four years ago, especially here in south carolina. but, also looking at what could happen here as a barometer to how black voters and black male voters might respond amid a handful of key states, where black voters hold a small majority. you think about some of these key states like pennsylvania and wisconsin, here in south carolina and georgia. so, even though there's a little smoke, there might be some fire here. again, it's why black voters are going to likely come out in an overwhelming majority for president biden, but i think people need to pay attention. and on sunday, as we mentioned with our special, talking to brother such as yourself at a wide range of people from across the country, you know, everyone is saying the same kind of thing. they don't feel that the democrats are making a direct effort towards black men. >> all, right nbc's tremaine lee, abe here for us. thank you both very much. and you can see that in a documentary from tremaine and civil rights attorney charles
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coleman, tomorrow night on msnbc. black men in america, the road to 2024. that's nine pm tomorrow night eastern, here on msnbc. and streaming on peacock. and speaking of the og, up next, south carolina congressman and democratic leader james clyburn joins us right here. you're watching the weekend. e. you're watching the weekend. wanna know why people are getting a covid-19 shot? i'm turning the big seven-o and getting back on the apps. ha ha ha. variants are out there... and i have mouths to feed. big show coming up, so we got ours and that blue bandage? never goes out of style. i prioritize my health... also, the line was short. didn't get a covid-19 shot in the fall? there's still time. book online or go to your local pharmacy.
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so, let's continue our coverage of the south carolina democratic party primary that's underway right now. south carolina congressman james clyburn joins us. he served as the assistant democratic leader in the house of representatives. welcome, sir. >> assistant leader clyburn, you are not with us today because you are with the vice president yesterday at that rally that she held at talons work, south carolina. i was particularly struck by your comments. you essentially, you told a story that painted the picture
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that one vote test the ability to change history. you talked about but one vote that put president hayes in office, and he was president haze that enacted jim crow. are you a kingmaker, sir? they talk about how you came down from heaven's in 2020, and that's how joe biden won south carolina? i was there. i think you are very, very critical, and so it's the infrastructure and investment. talk to us about your thoughts on this primary today, and the broader landscape as it relates to black voters in 2024, because there are people out there, as he said in our prior segment, that are kind of soft on their support for the biden reelection, and there are folks who believe does my vote really matter? >> thank you very much for having me. well, there's a single v., a single vote really does matter. that's one of the things i have to say on yesterday. at south
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carolina university, and i want to impress upon all the students there that this talk about not voting, to not be -- and we have to participate in every election irrespective of whether or not you see anything immediately for you. and i said to them yesterday, think about the future. many of you are going to be leaving this campus in a few months, and you are going to be looking for a future for yourselves, wear your families, and for your communities that you go to live in. which candidate offers you the best opportunity for your future? and i spent a lot of time on that. they mentioned earlier, yes, joe biden as given 137 billion dollars in student debt, but i am thrust upon them yesterday, but because for the next four years under joe biden, another
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75,000 students will become eligible for that that relief. every two months for the next four years, do you want the person to be in charge who created that? where the person who's already told you he's against that? so, that's what i was trying to get them to see that there is a relationship. that they're voting for their futures, and i've used what happened back in 1876, that we have election that was thrown into the house of representatives, and several told them from new york, came up one vote short in electoral college, and that allowed the election to go into the house of representatives, and the house elected its 15th president permitted, and they permitted vote 87, not began the election day, till then, but they gave rutherford b. hayes, because he's made the commitment to end reconstruction.
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so, the end of reconstruction came about by one vote. that started jim crow for over 100 years. so, when people tell me this has never been a racist country, i tell them to go back and look at what happens starting with the dred scott decision in 1856 all the way down to 1954. because it was not until brown v. board of education that this country started to bring themself out of that racism. i might give truman some credit back in 1948, when he integrated the armed services, but starting around that time is when we got through the racism in this country. a ted that students yesterday, there's a direct correlation between your participation in this process and the results that come out on the other end. >> given congressman, you just referenced folks who don't think the united states was ever a racist country, let's pull up this poll from south carolina, nikki haley versus donald trump. this is released on february 1st. you have donald trump pulling a
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58%, nikki haley pulling up 32% in the state. >> yeah. it's a little bit tight there in south carolina for nikki haley. when you say there, congressman? just a little bit tight in her backyard. i want to shift though, a little bit to some important work that you are a meshed in here back in washington. you had senator chris murphy on the board border deal everyone's talking about, trying to get done note in a tweet, republican said the border is a priority and we should craft a bipartisan bill to help control the border. we did that. we have a deal. this weekend, we will release the bill and vote next week. it's decision time. it is decision time, congressman. and you're working with hakeem jeffries and other democratic leaders in the senate and with republicans in the senate are very much behind the white house effort to get this bill done. you've got republicans in the form of the speaker saying
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though. do you see any realistic chance of this border deal getting through this house in any form or fashion? >> yes, i do. if the senate were to come with a very strong bipartisan vote, as you said, the senate republicans have been doing the work for this from oklahoma is a very, very conservative republican. i've worked with him when he was in the house, and he's a decent guy to work with. , so, please, get the work being done by some of the -- from connecticut, and the senator lansbury, hope they would bring the bill forward. it's a bipartisan vote, and send it to the house. and i do believe there are enough republicans on that side to vote for this bill, and make it law. , now the speaker may not want to put it on the floor, but
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that's why we have this job positions at our behest, and we will pursue that to give it to the floor, and i think if it gets to the floor, it will pass. so, i called on the senate. please, keep doing what you're doing. sent the bill over and let's see what happens in the house. so, hakeem jeffries and senator murphy, as, well as the republicans on the senate side to give to this point. >> take the win. >> take but when. congressman james clyburn, south carolina, the assistant democratic leaders, thank you, sir. we'll be watching. send us anything you got. over the day, what's happening in that primary. >> thank you. >> we've got a lot to unpack from the congress. we'll be right back, right here at the table. you are watching the weekend on msnbc. e watching the weekend o msnbc.
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welcome back to the weekend. so, clyburn threw down some of south carolina political chops, right? >> he really did. he really did. i think this is very interesting. it's an interesting conversation. i was struck by the fact that he said the senate should put the bill on the floor, especially when it comes to immigration and border security. >> with an empty second bet with young voters, black voters, do you think it just as we closer to the general? >> no, i don't think it changes. it is like 2015 2016 folks. not like 2020.
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2015 2016, the backdrop of the black lives matter activists, right? and there were people that said that would blow over, and they did not take the concerns of those young folks, but, also some not so young folks seriously. i think similarly here, if people were complaining about the economy, which they, are okay? folks would not tell them, but you didn't pay enough! they just need to go ahead and -- >> i think this is more like 22 for a whole host of regions, what we'll get into with this conversation expands out further. i think to your point, it is a link back to 16, 15 that we saw manifest in 2022 around the quality of the candidates that are running for office. that elevates to the difference between joe biden and donald trump. >> joe biden and donald trump. you have to take the concerns of voters put forward, you got to do. >> that's what we do. >> that does it for the week on the saturday morning. that's why you have to come back, okay? follow us on social media at the weekend msnbc, and you can see us tomorrow morning at 8 am eastern. congressman dean phillips will be here in the studio, and
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